Rolling Stones

DECCA Records Made In UK

 

NON BOXED & BOXED DECCA LOGOS

MONO & STEREO

Long Playing LP

The first very basic thing you need to know about DECCA vinyls when you start to investigate what you have,
 is to know that there are two different DECCA label designs exiting. This will also help you in dating the vinyl.
 


Open or non boxed DECCA logo:


This referes to the DECCA text on the label of the vinyl. The text is in big silver colour letters without any frame around it.
That is why it is generally called non boxed logo. You can also see from the colour of the label if you have a
MONO recording or a STEREO recording.

Red for MONO. Blue for Stereo

         

 

Boxed DECCA logo


This referes to the DECCA text on the label of the vinyl. The text is on a silver colour bottom
and framed around the DECCA word, looking like the DECCA would be inside a box.

         

 

 

The changeover from non boxed to boxed version took place during the fall of 1969.
That means that all LP's manufactured before the fall of -69 are always with non boxed labels, both mono and stereo.
The very last LP with non boxed logo was Let It Bleed that was issued in December of -69.

The change to boxed labels was actually taking place gradually during the last months of -69.
At least Let It Bleed was out in the shops on the same time with both non boxed and boxed versions.
Probably also Through The Past Darkly that was out in the shops a couple of months earlier.
Even The Promotional Album RSD-1 is said to be existing with both versions despite
 the fact that only 200 copies were manufactured. I have not seen any non boxed though....

From the beginning of 1970, all LP's were manufactured only with boxed labels.
This also means that Get Yer Ya Ya's Out is the first LP that is only made with boxed logo.
So, basically one can say that a non boxed is from the 60's and a boxed is from the 70's

Another change was that Decca dropped the manufacturing of Mono LP's.
 If the LP was issued during the 60's in both Mono and Stereo, then only Stereo was made from 1970 and on.
 If the LP was out only in Mono version during the 60's, read the first two ones,
then the manufacturing of them was still continued in Mono during the 70's.

 

7" singles & EP

All 7" vinyls were manufactured with dark blue labels. No separate Mono or Stereo versions were issued.

The non boxed and boxed versions are there

         

         

 

RECORDING FIRST PUBLISHED 1964

Long Playing LP


As we all know, the first LP "Rolling Stones" was out in the shops on 17th of April 1964.
All LP's manufactured in 1964, the same year it was issued has a small marking on the label stating;

"RECORDING FIRST PUBLISHED 1964"

                 


If you find that your copy of the first album has this text, then the copy is actually made in 1964,
the same year it was out. If your copy do not have this text, then there is a circulated P and 1964 on the label.
That means that it is manufactured 1965 or later.
The next LP, No2 was issued then in mid January 1965 and do not anymore have the "RFP" text
 


 
7" singles & EP


All singles and EP's issued during 1963 and 1964 has the same text on the labels.
These 7" vinyls are:

Come On / I Want To Be Loved (out in -63)

I Wanna Be Your Man / Stoned (out in -63)
Not Fade Away / Little By Little (out in -64)
It's All Over Now / Good Times Bad Times (out in -64)
Little Red Rooster / Off The Hook (out in -64)
The Rolling Stones EP (out in 1964)
Five By Five EP (out in 1964)
 

               

 


This means that Come On manufactured in 1963 has the "Recording First Published 1963" on the copies made that year.
If the copy was made in 1964, then you have the P1963 on the label.
This also means that if your Rooster was made in 1964, it has the "Recording First Published 1964" on the label
and P1964 if it was made 1965 or later

So to conclude the "RFP" text: It will be found on all LP's, singles and EP's during 1963 and 1964 if your copy
was manufactured the same year as it was originally issued.
 

Ring Pressing or Grooved Label

An other good detail to pay attention to when identifying the age of your Decca LP is the deep ring pressed on the vinyl under the label.
This ring can be found on all LP's manufactured before summer of 1968. The ring is existing on both Mono and Stereo LP's

The above example is form the "Rolling Stones No 2" LK4661.
The vinyl ontop is manufactured before summer of -68 and the other LP is made in the summer of -68 or later.

Their Satanic Majesties Request was the last LP to have this ring pressing and the first LP were it is missing on all printings is Beggars Banquet.
All LP's before Beggars can then be found both with and without the ring pressing.

 

MADE IN ENGLAND

 

  MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.


 


This label difference I have not yet been able to put a date on. What I do know for the moment is:

- I have both versions on LK4605 The Rolling Stones together with "Recording First Published 1964"
- I have the first version on several LK4661 No2
- I have one copy of LK4661 No2 with the first version on side 1 and the second version on side 2
- I have seen a LK4661 No2 with the second version on side 1 and the first version on side 2
- All other LP's from LK4725 Out Of Our Heads and later are always having the second version

Based on the above, I would like to think that most of the LP's made in 1964 and up to the summer of 1965 has the first version
and that the second version is having a limited use on the same time.
All "short Tell Me" pressings have the longer version also proving that it was in use as early as April of 1964

So then we know that if you have a LK4605 without "Recording First Published 1964" and with "Made In England",
then that LP is pressed in 1965. On the same time I would also like to think that if you have a LK4661 with "Made In England",
then that LP is pressed in 1965. This I base on the fact that all LK4725 are having "Made In England The Decca Record Co.LTD"
and that LP was out in the shops in late September of -65.

 

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