Rolling Stones

 LK 4605

Issued in UK on April 17th 1964. This one exists only in Mono version.

 

This their first elpee is an interesting item to collect in many respects. You can find lots of variations on the cover, on the label and on the vinyl itself.
Many combinations of label and cover versions can be found as well.

 Here is a presentation on some of the differences existing. These pages do not include all known versions.

The information here is based on my own knowledge and findings.
Mr John "JR" "stonerelics" in US and Vanni in Italy has contributed with information as well. Thanx guys.

 

Vinyl versions

 

Tell Me, the short and the long version


There are two different recordings of Tell Me on the first LP.


Tell Me short version. This one plays only 2,52 minutes and is a totally different take than the long one. Jaggers singing and Bills bass are totally
 different than on the long version. The rumour is that the producer by mistake used the wrong demo tape for the acetate.
Tell Me is on B side of the LP and the matrix number is XARL6272-1A.
Matrix number XARL6272-2A is with the short demo version as well
 

Tell Me long version. The mistake of the demo version was discovered pretty fast and it was replaced with the correct one.
This one is a totally different take and plays 4,06 minutes. The matrix was again changed and has XARL6272-3A.
All higher numbers are with the long version as well.

 

Tell Me short version have this matrix number on B side


 

Grooved label

The deep pressed ring in the vinyl under the label, "grooved label",  is in use until the summer of 1968. LK4605 is existing with the ring pressing as well as without it.
This proves that LK4605 was pressed later than summer of 1968 and up to the end of 1969 when the non boxed DECCA was changed into boxed DECCA logo.


              

 

 

Cover versions

There are at least three versions existing of song title and credit combinations on the back cover.

 

 

First cover

The first version had the "MONO" text in the upper right corner missing. Another interesting detail is that the third song on side one was named "I Need You Baby" and
that is here corrected by a stamp mark "MONA". Seams to be that they had some difficulties with deciding the title for that song.
So the very first back cover had "I Need You Baby". This was corrected for the second print to "Mona" which again was changed back to "I Need You Baby"
for the third print. This copy is in the "stone relics" collection.

 


Second cover

The next one has the "MONO" text in place. Interestingly the "if" has been dropped from "You Can Make It If You Try".The set of songs and credits are given as:

 

Side One
ROUTE 66 (Troup)
I JUST WANNA MAKE LOVE TO YOU (Dixon)
HONES I DO (Hurran, Calvert)

MONA
(McDaniels)
NOW I GOT A WITNESS (Phelge)
LITTLE BY LITTLE (Phelge, Spector)

Side, Two
I’M A KING BEE (Moore)
CAROL (Berry)
TELL ME (You’re Coming Back) (Jagger, Richards)
CAN I GET A WITNESS (E. & B. Holland, Dosier)
YOU CAN MAKE IT YOU TRY (Jarret)
WALKING THE DOG (Thomas)

 

 

 

Third cover

The next cover version had lots of corrections, “Honest I Do” had new song credits, “Mona” was replaced with “I Need You Baby”, “Dosier” was correctly spelled
and the “if” was added to the title of “You Can Make It If You Try”. This version remained in production into the boxed days of the 70's and 80's.

 

Side One
ROUTE 66 (Troup)
I JUST WANNA MAKE LOVE TO YOU (Dixon)

HONES I DO (Reed)
I NEED YOU BABY
(McDaniels)
NOW I GOT A WITNESS (Phelge)
LITTLE BY LITTLE (Phelge, Spector)


Side Two
I’M A KING BEE (Moore)
CAROL (Berry)
TELL ME (You’re Coming Back) (Jagger, Richards)
CAN I GET A WITNESS (E. & B. Holland, Dozier)
YOU CAN MAKE IT IF YOU TRY (Jarret)
WALKING THE DOG (Thomas)

 


These cover changes took place during the first months of production in the summer of 1964.

LP’s with the first and second back cover version have all the “Recording First Published In 1964” printed on the vinyl labels.
The vinyls inside the third cover has the “Recording First Published In 1964” text as well as the “P1964”
text depending on if the vinyl was pressed 1964 or later.
 

 

“Flip covers” and “non flip covers”

 

A "flip cover" has the front cover partly glued on top of the back cover
A "non flip cover" has the front cover glued under the back cover

The first and second back cover version are found only as "flip cover" version
The third cover is found both as “flip cover” and “non flip cover” already during 1964.
 

Flip cover with MacNeill Press

 

Non flip cover with MacNeill Press

 

Non flip cover with only “Printed in England”

This version missing the MacNeill Press is also existing with flip covers.
Sorry, no picture available at this moment.

 

 

"The Blue Box" cover

In April of 2008 there was an interesting cover up for sale on e-bay. It has the DECCA logo on the front cover with blueish green
colour were as norma covers have a black colour in the box

         

 

Label Versions


There are several label variations in existance as well. The individual differences existing are first listed and then they are listed as per combinations known to exist.
 

3 “Honest I Do”. 

LP’s pressed during 1964 have both “Hurran, Calvert” and “Reed” credits, “Reed” being a later 1964 version.
All LP’s pressed during 1965 and later have only “Reed” as song credit

              

 

4 “Mona”   /   “I Need You Baby” 

The very first pressings of the label had "I Need You Baby"  as the fourth song on A side.
The title was changed very fast to “Mona” and again back to “I Need You Baby” All this took place during 1964.
 

              

 

 

"MADE IN ENGLAND"   /   "MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD." 

LP’s pressed during 1964 and1965 has two header text on the label:

MADE IN ENGLAND
or
MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.

The first short version of “Tell Me” has “MADE IN ENGLAND. THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.” which indicates that both version were used during 1964.
The "MADE IN ENGLAND" text can also be found with the P1964 indicating that it was used to some extent during 1965 as well.
Pressings from 1966 or later do always have the longer version “MADE IN ENGLAND. THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.”
 

              

 

 

"Recording First Published 1964"

All LP's manufactured in 1964, the same year it was issued has a small marking on the label stating "Recording First Published 1964".
If this text is missing, then there is a circulated P and 1964 on the label. That means that it is manufactured 1965 or later.
 

              

 

 

The following label version combinations are known to exist:

 

Version 1

MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.
"Recording First Published 1964"
HONEST I DO (Hurran, Calvert)
I NEED YOU BABY

Tell Me short version 2,52  XARL6272-1A & -A2
Tell Me long version 4,06  XARL6272-3A or later

"I Need You Baby" lable can be found in covers with "Mona" as well as covers with "I Need You Baby"

Made only in 1964

              

 

Version 2

MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.
Recording First Published 1964
HONEST I DO (Hurran, Calvert)
MONA

Tell Me short version 2,52  XARL6272-1A & -A2
Tell Me long version 4,06  XARL6272-3A or later

"Mona" lable can be found in covers with "Mona" as well as covers with "I Need You Baby"

Made only in 1964

              

 

 

Version 3

MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.
Recording First Published 1964
HONEST I DO (Reed)
I NEED YOU BABY

Tell Me long version 4,06  XARL6272-3A or later

Made only in 1964

No picture available at this time

 

No picture available at this time

 

 

Version 4

MADE IN ENGLAND
Recording First Published 1964
HONEST I DO (Reed)
I NEED YOU BABY

Tell Me long version 4,06  XARL6272-3A or later

Made only in 1964

              

 

Version 5

MADE IN ENGLAND
P 1964
HONEST I DO (Reed)
I NEED YOU BABY

Tell Me long version 4,06  XARL6272-3A or later

This one was probably made only in 1965

              

 

 

 

Version 6

MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.
P 1964
HONEST I DO (Reed)
I NEED YOU BABY

Tell Me long version 4,06  XARL6272-3A or later

This one was made in between 1965 and 1969 until the logo was changed into the boxed one

              

 

 

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